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I have been following the Prop 8 Trial for the last week or so via the Prop 8 Trial Tracker and I can say I am really confused with the Defendants – the Pro-Prop 8 people. Their witnesses were to our advantage and their cross-examination of our witnesses yielded pretty much nothing of really use. Both of the witnesses they called came off as incompetent and/or sleazy. It was sad to see … in a good way.
I know that they do not have a rational or logical argument against Same-Sex Marriage, but this was sad almost to the point of hoping that they declare a mistrial because their counsel seemed completely inept and out classed by the Olson/Boise juggernauts. I am happy to see that, because it reinforces the legitimacy of Same-Sex Marriage issue, but it also makes me worry as to what they are really up to.
I am pretty sure they were expecting an appeal regardless of who won this first round, so perhaps they have something more vicious planned for the appellate court. They cannot add new evidence or testimony there, but perhaps they are planning on hiring competent counsel to argue their case. The evidence and testimony that they submitted was not too inspiring. Perhaps they may leave it at losing here at the District Court level and not take it too the Supreme Court to minimize the damage, in hopes that this case will not be used as further precedent for other cases across the country? I am not sure what is going on here, but it is worry-some.
Our evidence and testimony was pretty much on target and unflappable. With Loving vs Virginia and Brown vs Board of Education in our courts to show that marriage is a fundamental right, and separate is not equal, respectively, I am thinking that we have a great case in our favor.
Now we wait for the judge to review the testimony and evidence given, and then the court will take on filings for Amicus Briefs, and then Closing Arguments. I do not like this wait at all. There is so much at stake here, but I am quite hopeful.
If you think that what I am about to write does not affect you please take a look at this quote:
Texas is the nation’s second-largest textbook market and one of the few biggies where the state picks what books schools can buy rather than leaving it up to the whims of local districts, which means publishers that get their books approved can count on millions of dollars in sales. As a result, the Lone Star State has outsized influence over the reading material used in classrooms nationwide, since publishers craft their standard textbooks based on the specs of the biggest buyers. As one senior industry executive told me, “Publishers will do whatever it takes to get on the Texas list.”
Mariah Blake
This article titled Revisionaries: How a group of Texas conservatives is rewriting your kids’ textbooks by Mariah Blake from the Washington Monthly is very saddening to me. I had heard off-handedly through the news that it was pretty bad down there (i.e. teaching creationism in schools movement), but I did not realize how bad it was until I read this article. There is an all out assault on education to, again, enshrine Fundamentalist Christianity into our culture and education while totally ignoring scientific facts and historical accuracy.
Again, they wish to impose upon the public their theological view points when we, most assuredly, do not ask for it. Our public education system needs to be free from religious interference or view points, for our education system is for everyone regardless of your religious preference. If you want religious knowledge go to church or a seminary, buy a book, or talk to your parents and family. The public education system is not the place for a theological bias.
Religion is a personal choice and our public schools are not. By virtue of teaching Fundamentalist Christian view points we are discriminating against everyone who does not share that view point, and are ensuring prejudice and bigotry towards non-Christians in the next generations. Perhaps a student attending a public might be Hindu, Muslim, Mormon, or Jewish? Should they be subjected to heavily conservative and Christian colored history lesson.
I do believe that we do need to teach about religion in our schools so people know about the different religions out there. We need to teach and not preach a Comparative Religion class.
Who do you want writing your public schools’ text books?
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The more I read of the Proposition 8 Trial Tracker BLog’s account of the trial’s testimony the more I believe that there is really no valid argument against gay marriage. Their Questioning, and their expert witnesses are crushing the pro- Prop 8 people. It is a blood bath in there. The historical evidence supporting the homosexuality has been to subject to demonizing, discrimination, and bigotry throughout history is huge and painful to recount, but consistent. There is also plenty of historical evidence of changing marital laws with slaves, interracial marriage, etc… I am impressed with the legal work here.
I see good things to eventually come. Yea!
I just received word the the Supreme Court has affirmed a block on televising the Prop 8 court proceedings. I am saddened by this. Transparency to the public in such a high profile case is important, especially to let the world see the bigotry and lies that are spread by the pro Prop 8′ers. They want to keep this as hidden as possible so they do not look so bad. They are trying to keep as much of their commercials and other propaganda and so on from being admitted for similar reasons. They hate to have their own work used against them.
New York Times Coverage
Here is a link to a live blog detailing the happenings at the Proposition 8 trial: Proposition 8 Trial Tracker BLog from the Courage Campaign.
Read it and get involved. This is one of the most important civil rights issues of our time.
Read about it and you be the judge:
- Uganda considers death sentence for gay sex in bill before parliament (Guardian UK, November 2009)
- Uganda’s Anti-Gay Bill: Inspired by the U.S. (Time, December 2009)
- Taboos Silence Opponents Of Uganda Anti-Gay Bill (NPR, December 2009)
- Uganda’s bill to imprison gays for life is an outrage that should be rejected (Washington Post, January 2010)
- Op-Ed: Bearing False Witness in Uganda (HRC Backstory, January 2010)
Contact your legislators via HRC to let them know that this is not acceptable anywhere in the world.
I know what I am about to write here is bitterly sarcastic and angry… but here it is anyhow:
Congrats Scott Lively, Don Schmierer and Caleb Lee Brundidge! This must be a proud moment for you and your Fundamentalist Christian community. Bravo! Bravo! You have worked hard spreading ignorance and lies to ensure the deaths of more people. How proud you must be to know that you will soon have the potential death of many vile homo’s on your hands. Your “Godly” works are now responsible for promoting another tyrannical and oppressive regime like Iran and China where human rights are only a convenience for the state to play with and not a human right. I hope you enjoyed the participatory process in bringing about such stellar and model Christian legislation.
This article in Newsweek titled “The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage
Why same-sex marriage is an American value” is written by Theodore Olson who is a prominent Republican lawyer that served under Bush and Reagan during their presidential administrations. He, along with David Boies, a prominent liberal lawyer, have taken it upon themselves to overturn Proposition 8 all the way to the Supreme Court.
This article states his reasons for taking up the Gay Marriage case with hopes of ending the discrimination and injustice in this country. The Republican party has been struggling with their identity and have been trying to find themselves again. I think that they should take up with Mr. Olson to find out where to go – Freedom, Justice, and Family and not persecutive religious dogmatic status quo’ism.
Please take the time to read his view point. It is very compelling. And if you are really bored you can read my scrawlings on the gay marriage issue too.
I was not surprised to see this still an issue. In the pre-revolution days many of the colonies had religious tests as a requirement to hold office. They did out-law it at some point prior to the the uniting of the colonies, if I remember correctly, but still there remains these last remaining vestiges of Christian religious oppression. Fortunately, the Constitution is really clear on this and tells the state to suck it.
Google is, thankfully, celebrating Dr. L.L. Zamenhof’s birthday today with a Doodle, since it is Zamenhof Day. Right about now you are probably wondering who this Dr. Zamenhof is that Google would take the time to recognize him? There was a lot of speculation within the Esperanto community as to whether or not Google would do recognize him or not, but it looks like Google heard our call and the importance of Esperanto to the world
In case you do not know who Dr. Zamenhof is, he was a Polish Jew born in Byaliastock Poland during Russia’s occupation. He, throughout a decade or so, created the constructed language Esperanto to be the worlds primary secondary-language to facilitate communication between the disparate languages. I write at length about Esperanto and his wonderful and easy to learn language in my Esperanto pages here at Arion’s Home..
What does a green flag have to do with Zamenhof or Esperanto, well a green flag with a white star, or a green star are the symbols of the Esperanto movement.
More Coverage on National Geographic News and CBS News via the Associated Press.
The article Gay on Trial: Why more than marriage is at stake in the federal legal challenge to Prop. 8 (the American Prospect) has a great run-down on the current state of the gay rights movement especially in light of the famous lawyers David Boies and Ted Olson taking up the case.
The only part of the article that I find annoying is this following quote:
Prop. 8’s defenders seem most self-assured when speaking in broad axioms. According to the motion filed by the defense in Perry, “the purpose of marriage [has] always been to promote naturally procreative sexual relationships,” and “every civilized society in recorded history [has] limited marriage to opposite-sex relationships.” But when asked concrete questions, as the defense was at a pre-trial hearing in October, lawyers have been hard-pressed to come up with an answer.
Gay on Trial, Gabriel Arana; November 23, 2009
If they paid any attention to history or anthropology they would find this statement patently false. Marriage has not, in even a pseudo modern world, traditionally been done specifically for procreative or genetic ends. Marriage has been done for power, land, and influence, and love. The ability to bear children is a natural extension of power, love, and influence.
Historically there have been many societies that have revered or thought nothing of homosexuality. There have been even some societies where sex with the opposite sex was abhorrent and only done with the explicit necessity of bearing children to perpetuate their tribe. The possibility of not having and answer for this I find annoying, because it is easy to refute.
Rev. Debra Haffner’s Huffington Post article “A Solomon’s Choice on Abortion: Let Compassion and Justice Prevail” is a great message I have been a fan of hers for a few months now.
Karen Armstrong, a former nun, gave her speech called A Charter for Compassion (TED)” to Ted Talks on Feb 2009. I watched this speech and it is quite inspiring. This speech was given as her TED Prize Wish for 2009. She now has a website of for it as well: Charter for Compassion
Related TED Talk: “Lets Revive the Golden Rule“
This just shows the power of the internet to bring people together. I could listen to this sort of music all day. Playing for Change brings musicians from around the world to perform for each song in a beautiful and progressive layering of talent from around the world – Zimbabwe, India, Ireland, Tibet, United States, etc.
Get more info at “A Woman is not a Pre-existing condition.




